This is an excellent post which I missed. That manual trans picture gave me chills. Also I like the idea of an elevated platform on top of the rear seats for a bed, had never thought of that... » 11/20/14 10:20am 11/20/14 10:20am

Go with the 870, it was my first shotgun and I have had zero regrets. I looked at the benellie and Mossberg but I found this to be a more rugged and solid gun. I use it for all the things you mentioned above. I liked it so much that my second shotgun was a 870 wingmaster. As you probably know there are several… » 11/18/14 12:33pm 11/18/14 12:33pm